Tuesday, August 25, 2009

A Massif ASBO Victory

A small victory for local justice with the news that Anti-social behaviour orders have been handed out to five youths responsible for numerous acts of anti-social behaviour in Newington, in a civil case brought by the Thanet District Council and supported by Kent Police, on behalf of the Thanet Community Safety Partnership.

"The case is the largest multi-ASBO application in Kent, with the partnership gathering evidence over the last year from CCTV footage, along with statements from witnesses, who include police officers, police community support officers and the council’s community wardens. The group were members of a gang 'The Newington Massif' on the Newington estate, who were responsible for a series of incidents, which included harassment, intimidation, threatening and abusive behaviour, throwing missiles, vandalism and criminal damage."

I'm sure that many readers would have liked to have seen much stiffer penalties delivered to this gang of young thugs than the ASBOs and what I would like to write and what I can write write about the subject, as a local councillor, deeply concerned about the worrying decline in our criminal justice system, are two rather different things!

None-the-less, we can at least be pleased that a level of sanction was delivered, and my colleague, Cllr. Zita Wiltshire, Cabinet Member for Community Services illustrates our collective concerns when she said: "I’d like to thank everyone who’s been involved in helping the council and Kent Police to achieve this excellent result. We’re committed to tackling anti-social behaviour in Thanet to ensure that the area is a safe place to live, work and visit. This gang was making life miserable for residents on the Newington estate and we’ve worked hard – and very closely – with local residents to help bring that gang culture to an end. It has taken a long time to get this result, but now that we have got a result, it should help to improve people’s lives on the Newington estate.”

In a second story, A Ramsgate man has been ordered to pay £25,000 in damages and interest and almost £4,000 in costs, following a long-running case over the use of a garden to keep scrap cars.

You and I might think that turning one's garden into a repository for rusting vehicles a little unreasonable but in cases like this one, it takes a great deal of effort and public money to persuade one individual that collecting scrap in this manner is unlikely to impress either one's neighbours or the local council.

16 comments:

Stop Manston Expansion Group said...

Simon, interesting the council fine an individual with a paltry 24 cars worth of scrap, (50 tonnes if you are lucky), where infratil have six decaying planes and counting running to thousands of tonnes of rotting metal up at manston. All on top of our drinking water as well!!

Neither episode is likely to "impress one's neighbours or the local council", but only one seems to have been pursued taking " a great deal of effort and public money".

Maybe the individual didn't speak to the right people? Is it because he doesn't have deep pocketed parents he can hide behind? Maybe a bit of both.....

DrM. said...

I believe the difference here is a simple one. Manston is an airport and has planning permission to both act as one and indeed, disassemble any aircraft that might be on the same property!

Anonymous said...

SMEG has a good point there and you haven't answered it - in true politician stylee. Can you show me Manston's licence to disassemble aircraft and dispose of all the polluting parts safely, in accordance with the regs? No, didn't think so. As ever, it wasn't the council that alerted the Environment Agency to the problem, it was concerned local citizens. Just goes to show TDC don't give a fig as long as there's something in it for the councillors and officers personally (like a freebie holiday to China).

I would also like to know if the council is going to take out an ASBO on the airport for keeping us up all night with 100db plus of aircraft noise? That's what they plan to do isn't it?

If it was yobs doing that I'm sure you'd be quick to condemn them. Ah, the hypocrisy of Thanet Council!

DrM. said...

What do you mean "No I didn't think so!"

What makes you think that an airport can't disassemble aircraft and dispose of them according to the regulations?

Why on earth would I be showing some anonymous blogger with an axe to grind anything? If you want such information simply apply in the proper manner!

Anonymous said...

ooo simon the picture of the little dog made me feel very sick-was it necessary to use it?had the vile youths done that to the poor little creature?Should have put a warning on about what we were going to see-has made me very upset

Eddie said...

The bit about the cars on private property is interesting. Under what powers can TDC do that? I ask because there is a piece of land directly behind my house on the Planes of Waterloo that has collected a couple of old wrecks over the last couple of years and TDC claim they can't get them moved because they don't own the land.

Anonymous said...

I think the airport has been here longer than any of you idiots. I have lived in Manston for 30 years and it nas never bothered me. It seems that you are a bunch of morons with nothing better to do than moan.

DrM. said...

I guess it depends if the wrecks are there as part of a business. Best ask the Planning Department if you are concerned as they will be happy to advise!

Call me Infidel said...

Having driven past that dump on Ebbsfleet Road for years I am delighted that he has finally been brought to book. Besides the heaps of rusting wrecks in the "garden" he would also park several barely roadworthy cars on a narrow unlit bend presenting a hazrd t anyone driving past. Good enough for him.

Cllr David Green said...

Actually Simon, the Airport does not have Planning permission to act as an airport, it operates under licence. A technical point, but very important because it means there has never been the opportunity to force an environmental impact study, the 106agreement was not tied to a particular planning decision and so succesive owners have been allowed far too lax a regime concerning their effect on the local environmental.

DrM. said...

Thank you for the clarification David. I agree it's an important technical point for debate.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment about the little dog-makes my stomach churn-and you have'nt answered the questions about why you are using that image Dr Moore's

Anonymous said...

I'm glad that Thanet Council has acted in the way it has against the guy keeping cars at Ebbsfleet. It's a big sum of money that he has been fined so I wonder what the chances are of him paying it anytime soon - particularly under recessionary conditions. It's all very well passing the judgement but if the guy doesn't cough up, he will have got away with it. Jail in lieu of payment is the other option but he will probably only get a few months and that will be at great taxpayers' expense.

Anonymous said...

How immature some of these people are ! The picture of the dog is irrelevant, it is obviously a posed picture, taken when the puppy was asleep. It caught your eye, which is probably the reason why it is there. Grow up will you, if you have nothing sensible to add to this particular subject (and I don't mean the dog, I mean the story) then stop wasting everyone's time. Now I understand why this area is called Jeremy Kyle's audition site.

Anonymous said...

anon again!
Poor Simon Jones from BBC South East being threatened by that Newington gorilla live on the news.
I bet he loves Thanet. I'm sure, all things taken into consideration, prison for 6 months would have been much better a solution.
With reference to the cars - there is still a very major problem all along Margate seafront, TDC have a knack of turning a blind eye from this problem. I know this has nothing to do with cars in private gardens, but it is something that is disgracefully ignored.
If they (TDC) can fine someone for that, then EVERY untidy Garden in Thanet is under threat! Instead of Traffic Wardens About Town (TWAT's) we'll have Garden Wardens handing out Untidy Garden tickets.
Can you imagine?
Planes are cool, modified (quiet jets) after 9 P.M. only. They whisper, the older ones shout.

Anonymous said...

non again!

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ASBO's Fall IN!!! your Country needs you