Friday, December 14, 2007

Late Developer

A last minute appeal from developers to place a block of flats in Westgate's Harold Road conservation area featured in the Thanet Gazette, today, together with a photograph of a Residents Association protest, organised by Cllr. King.

In the background however, it's now up to the Planning Inspectorate to make a final decision on Harold Road but the Council have had a relatively succesful +80% record of challenging projects of this type and it's hoped that the inspectors in Bristol will take notice of a number of valid objections and reject the application. One can never be 100% certain though; the ways of planning inspectors being a mystery to most of us!

I did notice last week that another project to build flats, this time on Beach Rise in Westgate, has an unusual footnote. This one is also out for appeal and I wrote to the Planning Inspectorate on behalf of local resident along with some aerial photographs I took of the road to illustrate the potential unsuitability of the development. However, the same address has now appeared on an estate agent's list, priced at £750,000 "A substantial property offering scope for subdivision to apartments subject to any necessary consents being obtainable"; rather optimistically jumping the gun on the inspector's decision which has yet to be made!

Sadly though, if your'e a ward councillor, new property applications seem to arrive rather more regularly than buses. This takes us back once again to the earlier story on house building in general, the "presumptive approval" of such applications means that to have any chance of winning, residents need to have a very good and solid objection under the existing straight-jacket of planning legislation.

10 comments:

Tony Beachcomber said...

Planning is nothing more than a nightmare for any hard working Councillor. I always believe that every councillor acts with the best of intentions regarding applications in their ward. But the public at large will not see it that way as there is this misconception that if we all don't want it, it won't happen. If it does happen then it is the fault of the ward Councillor. When in fact it is not, I not a councillor but I wish people would realise that ward planning applications has nothing to do with politics all it is, is hard graft by the ward councillors involved they win some they lose some.

Anonymous said...

nice to see somebody surporting ward councillor,s instead of kicking them everytime well done
people neversay well done when they do good do they ?

Tony Beachcomber said...

Annon 1:11 AM, I used to be one , I know tne score.

Mr Friday said...

Be interesting to see if Frank Thorley gets his car park extension planning application granted at the Stanley Gray after threatening publicly to throw his toys out of his pram and invest somewhere else if it is turned down.

Watch this space people.

sue said...

I would still like to know what is happening with the old Butlins St Georges Hotel site in Cliftonville.
Demolished ages ago and plot still up for sale.

Jonah said...

I suspect that the expected downturn in the economy has started and that developers do not want to tie into expensive loans when unsold property abounds in Thanet (Cllr Cameron recently quoted 800 flats)or prices expected are dropping; the profit can quickly go out of the development to finance loans if they carry on over a long period. Your observation of lack of activity at St George's site ties in with rumours that Phase 3 of St Augustine's in Westgate is on hold as too many completed units are unsold so far (nothing to do with people hearing about a 'social housing' requirement in the project?) I was interested to hear rumours of Waterbridge/Godden wanting to 'off-load' Dreamland site to Paigle( Sea Bathing guys).

Sadly for Margate, the Dreamland development is likely not to happen unless public money is put into it. Labour's promise to avoid 'boom and bust'was a hollow electioneering cry that will come back to haunt them in 2008. If we couldn't sort out Margate in the 'boom' years then I don't see much hope in the few tight years ahead of 'bust'.

Too many indicator lights are starting to blink 'red' around the place for me to have much optimism.
Look out for any business closures in Old Town at the end of February and early March. If there is not a rash of them, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Anonymous said...

I presume you mean Harold Avenue, not Road ?? A bit worrying that the ward councillor doesn't know the proper address!!

Tony Beachcomber said...

Jonah 11:54, god that is a real gloomy prediction for 2008. Are you a Conservative by any chance.

Jonah said...

Tony, I don't really know. Thatcher and Poll Tax pissed me off and I went as far as Magistrates Court having been summoned to pay my wife's Poll Tax although she was a housewife with no income. I voted Labour in 1997 with high hopes and those have been dashed. I voted last time for Gale because, as a constituency MP, I think he does a splendid job. I think KCC are as bad as Central Government in wasting tax-payers money and fully support Tony Flaigs arguments about KCC TV etc. I just feel that Brown lost the plot about 6 years ago and stopped following Tory fiscal policy and opened the spending taps. We are sitting on the 21st Century equivalent of the South Sea Bubble and its about to burst. Our productivity is down; personal and Govt debt has never been so high; a huge influx of poorly paid immigrants have kept inflation down and I can't help but feel that its all about to go sour as the economic cycle seems to have 10 year periods of boom and bust. I suspect that as Blair legged it to the 'lecture circuit' that he left Buggins Brown with the poisoned chalice. Doom and gloom? Yes! If the above makes me a Conservative then , yes I suppose I am at heart. I just want to see competency in Government, not short term political fixes. The problems facing this country over the next 50 years need STATESMEN not politicians.

Jonah said...

An afterthought , Tony. Do I approve of a tory TDC hitting the paltry budget of our museums? No! I'm right behind you in this . Does that stop me being a conservative?